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Old 05-07-2001, 11:13 PM   #1
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re watson trans overdrive unit

I HAVE A WATSON TRANSMISSION UNDERDRIVE DIRECT OVERDRIVE UNIT MADE
BY SPICER MANUFACTURING MODEL # 46 CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE TO GO TO GET MORE INFO ON THAT UNIT IE. APPLICATION ,RATIOS ETC THANKS
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Old 05-08-2001, 02:19 PM   #2
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RE: re watson trans overdrive unit

I did some checking but came up short.What year do you think it is?
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Old 05-16-2001, 11:09 AM   #3
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RE: re watson trans overdrive unit

>I did some checking but came
>up short.What year do you
>think it is?
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:24 PM   #4
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Cool Model 45

I have a Watson Transmission Brown life Gear DIV Spicer MFG Model 45 S/N Z49445
And I have not been able to find out anything on it also.But maybe some of what I gave you will help you.Good Luck Jerry
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Old 08-04-2008, 03:19 AM   #5
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Overdrive Unit

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I have a Watson Transmission Brown life Gear DIV Spicer MFG Model 45 S/N Z49445
And I have not been able to find out anything on it also.But maybe some of what I gave you will help you.Good Luck Jerry
I'm doing some research on these and would really like to see some photos of what you guys have ?!?
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Old 08-09-2008, 09:49 AM   #6
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Re: Overdrives

I'm kinda curious about these as well. 67Cowboy, what is that first picture of?

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Old 02-26-2009, 11:33 PM   #7
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Underdrive-Direct-Overdrive

Hello- I've got one of the these too. It is called by its nickname, a 3 speed "Brownie", used as a second transmission behind a 5 speed Clark, or whatever trans is in the front. It provided an underdrive for pulling, drive for one-to-one, and an overdrive for cruising. Got mine from behind an older Cummins Diesel, but they are useable about anywhere. Was thinking of putting mine behind a c-6 or a TH400 to make use of the overdrive, but really its original use was to make a fifteen speed trans out of a 5 and the Brownie 3 speed in 1950's semis.... They are really heavy duty, and have provisions to bolt on a PTO too, in case you want to run something...compressor, generator, hydraulic pump, etc. Haven't seen many, but i don't frequent the older big truck wrecking yards.

If you can come up with a shifter to get the three rods to move correctly, the rest should be easy. I haven't seen what the original shifter looked like, but maybe that'll give me a reason to start looking. The mounts on mine look like 1" thick by 2" wide bar-stock...pretty heavy for a pickup. The guy I got mine from thought they went for about $600 and up.... I traded for mine and thats about what I have into mine. Curious what you are putting yours into... Oh...ratios are 20% underdrive- then 1 to1- then 20% overdrive, if memory serves me correctly...

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Old 12-27-2009, 11:31 AM   #8
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Watson linkage and...shift on the fly?

I am thinking of picking up a watson from a neighbor. It looks exactly like the pictures in this thread. I am wondering what others have done for linkage and also, if yours is up and running, if this hum-dinger will shift under load just fine and if is it a bit noisy or not. I am putting it in a wonder bread van behind a t19 ford toploader. Yikes do I need more gears for my tiny hercules diesel! Thanks!

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Hello- I've got one of the these too. It is called by its nickname, a 3 speed "Brownie", used as a second transmission behind a 5 speed Clark, or whatever trans is in the front. It provided an underdrive for pulling, drive for one-to-one, and an overdrive for cruising. Got mine from behind an older Cummins Diesel, but they are useable about anywhere. Was thinking of putting mine behind a c-6 or a TH400 to make use of the overdrive, but really its original use was to make a fifteen speed trans out of a 5 and the Brownie 3 speed in 1950's semis.... They are really heavy duty, and have provisions to bolt on a PTO too, in case you want to run something...compressor, generator, hydraulic pump, etc. Haven't seen many, but i don't frequent the older big truck wrecking yards.

If you can come up with a shifter to get the three rods to move correctly, the rest should be easy. I haven't seen what the original shifter looked like, but maybe that'll give me a reason to start looking. The mounts on mine look like 1" thick by 2" wide bar-stock...pretty heavy for a pickup. The guy I got mine from thought they went for about $600 and up.... I traded for mine and thats about what I have into mine. Curious what you are putting yours into... Oh...ratios are 20% underdrive- then 1 to1- then 20% overdrive, if memory serves me correctly...

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I may have a watson as well. I'm not 100% as there are no identifiers on the unit. Here are the pics.



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I may have a watson as well. I'm not 100% as there are no identifiers on the unit. Here are the pics.



PapeCat, Were you able to identify this "brownie"? It sure is a sleek looking unit. IS it a 3-spd over/under? Just wondering...really nice pics!
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I may have a watson as well. I'm not 100% as there are no identifiers on the unit. Here are the pics.



Whoops, I see by quoting your post, the pics were added to my reply! Sorry guys...Is this a lipmann?
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