flywheel ring gear

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  1. jackdalbak

    jackdalbak Member

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    Hi Forum, I have a 58 GMC truck with a six cylinder 270 motor. The ring gear is heading south. Does anyone have a source, or know the part# or have any ideas?? Thanks, -Steve
     
  2. steve

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    Big Old 270 Cid

    You may want to check out KANTER of Boonton, New Jersey. They list all GMC's even the V6 305, I had that one in my 61 panel wagon, what a engine.

    Good Luck

    www.kanter.com
     
  3. Bill Hanlon

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    GMC Master Parts Book shows many flywheel/ring gear combos for '58 270 engines.

    8614887 for Hydra-Matic flywheel
    2343767 for 10" clutch
    2343769 for 11" clutch
    2383743 for 13" clutch
    2362231 for TorqueMatic

    Once you figure out which you need try advertising for it over on the OldGMCTrucks web site at
    http://oldgmctrucks.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/4266021295
    These guys live and breathe GMC long motors.
     
  4. jackdalbak

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    clutch size

    Thanks Guys for the good info. I have a 4 speed manual trans, does that mean I have a specific size clutch?? Or could it be any of the 3? Thanks, -Steve
     
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    The 13" clutch was a big truck (450 and up) item. I don't know how to tell the difference between the 10 and 11 other than with a ruler. GMC Maintenance Manual says the 10" was standard on 6 cylinder engines and the 11" was an option.
     
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    Turns out the ring gear is replaceable (I didn't know that) and that all 56-62 270" engines (no matter 10" or 11" clutch) use 2343768: 168 tooth, 12 volt ring gear.
     
  7. jackdalbak

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    thanx

    Bill, Thanks alot, now I know what to look for! -Steve
     
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    Ring Gear

    Steve ;

    First thing , go find a commercial brake shop , the kind of place that re-lines brake shoes, rebuilds clutches and grinds flywheels etc. ~ they'll be able to press the old one off and the new one back on but best of all , they'll prolly have your new ring gear , in stock .

    If i turns out to be a really oddball , unobtanium one , they can mark it , press it off , rotate it 90° in the direction the engine turns and re-install it , this will work for years to come as the engine always comes to rest in the same position (hence why it wears in one place) so rotating the ring gear 90° allows the starter's Bendix to engauge just after the damaged bit and by the time the damaged bit comes 'round , the Bendix is full meshed so there's no problem .

    This is not some therory , it's a dealer trick I learned 40 years ago and have been using ever since , never failed .
     
  9. jackdalbak

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    I'd like to update this thread. I was able to order a ring gear, so the truck is apart. The gear is about 1/4 " too wide (id). Was able to order a flywheel; had same bigger ring gear, and wrong mounting pattern. The id on my ring gear is 13". Found a manufacturer in India, and looked through their parts list- no 13" id 168 tooth, just 13.26" id. Flipped and rotated my flywheel (which had already been flipped), still messed up. I'm going to try to find another source, and think about machining the new flywheel to fit but I don't know about the extra 1/4" width????
     
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  10. Bill Hanlon

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    The part from India is from a camel!!
     
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    Thanks to you who tried to help. Once I had the correct id and tooth count, my friend who ordered the first ring gear was able to order the correct one (for my truck). Good to go; keep on truckin' etc. -Steve
    ps. my mistake was trying to order the gear before disassembly
     
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    Steve: Do the forum a favor by letting us know where you got the ring gear. We are always looking for places to buy parts for our 50+ year old trucks.
     
  14. jackdalbak

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    The ring gear is from pioneer inc automotive products; FRG-168T
     

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