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  1. WHITEBULL

    WHITEBULL Member

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    Will a power steering box from a 50's chevy like the 605 style fit, bolt up, or can it be converted to work with my 50?
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    Ron
     
  2. Bill Hanlon

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    What would you do differently? I want to retain the stock axle, is there any other way to get these things to handle good at speeds of 65mph?
    Don't want the Mustang 11 conversion.
    Thanks
     
  4. PHAT

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    It dont take much. i run mine all the time way over 65mph(sometimes triple digits if the wife and nobody elese is around LOL)....Like i said before the peterbuilt that runs by you at 85mph has the same stuff you have. Most of the problem is you dont run enough caster.You need to spend on getting everything tight before adding stuff.
    What do you not like? Pins tie rods steering box and every other thing that your 2005 truck has has to be tight first.......:D
     
  5. coilover

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    Short answer is no, not without a lot of work. The early to mid-eighties Toyota 4wd box mounts on top of the frame in line with the factory column and by using a very simple mount bracket the pitman arm will move your draglink in the same plane as original. The Toyota power box is smaller than the AD's factory box. Like Bill, I've noticed an increase in bump steer which is not influenced by caster although you can increase caster to make it track well. Increased caster increases steering effort but that is more than offset with the power box. If you can lengthen the draglink even a little bit, take all slop out, and control the axle vertical movement with good springs, shocks, and sway bar, it won't do away with bump steer but it does make it controlable. I have also used the power assist cylinder on the tie rod like cars in the 50's and Corvette up to the 80's. A bit more fabrication and plumbing but they drive well.
     
  6. Bill Hanlon

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    I've never heard a first person experience, but someone makes a kit that mounts a rear-steer rack and pinion to the back side of the stock front axle. The rack takes the place of the stock tie rod and connects to the stock steering arms. The steering shaft uses a slip joint to allow for up and down movement of the rack. No chance of bump steer with this design.

    It was featured in one of the old truck magazines 2+ years ago, but if it is so good why doesn't everyone use one? Can't find the article now. If I do I'll scan it and post it here.
     
  7. Wolf

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    for my power steering I go to the gym at least 4 nights a week:D but seriously that is what I do. Once you get it rollin it turns great;)
     
  8. WHITEBULL

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    Thanks. Sounds like a good set up.
     
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    You need tappered wheel bearings also. I made my own kit using 65 truck hubs and a little adapter for the inner bearing.
     
  11. Bill Hanlon

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    You found it Breezy

    Breezy found the magazine article
    http://www.customclassictrucks.com/techarticles/0602cct_rack_and_pinion_steering/installation.html
    and here is a pointer directly to No-Limit's advertisment for the rack & pinion set up.
    http://nolimit.net/prodinfo.asp?number=PS-SA-
    According to this web site No-Limit now supplies new steering arms instead of using the stock arms that are shown in the magazine article.

    I never did find the magazine, but while looking for it I did run across an article showing the use of a 70's Toyota 4x4 power steering box. It mounts in roughly the same position as the stock steering box, so should have geometry very similar to the stock steering. If you are interested let me know and I'll scan the article and post it here.
     
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    Of Course ;

    Using the correct size radial light truck tires will negate the need for power steering.....
     
  13. WHITEBULL

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    Now thats a very nice, clean set up. I wonder if you can use this in conjunction with a power steering unit? I located an already installed power steering unit from a guy in Modesto who is selling me a newer front disc assembly as well. I will see them tomorrow, so I will have all the info then.
    Thanks for the help,
    Ron
     
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    Your previously installed power steering pump would likely work. You might need new hoses to match the new rack and may need one of the pressure regulator gizmos that people use when they attach a Mustang II rack (uses less pressure) to a GM pump (provides more pressure).
     

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