In case you want to know where the term"Stovebolt" comes from?

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  1. Blueflame236

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    The terminology and the slang usage of Stovebolt refers to three different things:

    1) a bolt with a slotted-head used in the assembly of wood burning stoves constructed from metal.

    2) A inline six cylinder engine made by the Chevrolet division of General Motors, which has a bolt with a slotted-head that resembles the above mentioned slotted-head bolt.

    3) Chevrolet branded cars and trucks that were equipped with this engine.

    The original usage of the term Stovebolt applied to a bolt with a slotted-head, that fastened into a nut. This particular bolt design was often used as a fastener on wood burning stoves which were fabricated out of metal sheets, which were very common in the first half of the 20th century. Therefore any slotted-head bolt that looked similar to the bolts in wood burning stoves became referred to as a Stovebolt.

    Martinius.
     
  2. vwnate1

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    And of course , the endearing term " Stovebolt " clearly indicates your good taste and breeding by choosing the BEST powerplant for the job at hand..... :rolleyes:

    :D

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  3. vwnate1

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    Acronym : CHEVROLET

    As long as we're explaining things to the newbies (WELCOME ! BTW) ;

    It means :

    Can

    Hear

    Every

    Valve

    Rap

    On

    Long

    Extended

    Trips

    ! :D

    :p

    I'm just waiting for the electrician , or someone like him :cool:
     
  4. Volker

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    Wow

    Hey Martinius,

    what do you do in your free time? Looking for these terms ? I go in my garage and work on my truck.:D

    But it's very interesting what you know. Hmmm, now i can shine with my knowledge on the next car meeting:p
     
  5. Blueflame236

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    Wow

    Volker

    Sparetime is something i allmost dont have,but knowledge gives understandings they say so keep on trucking man?
    Have been working a lot with my truck lately and i am going to start up again when its not so hot outside anymore ca. 35 Celsius this week. I am progressing a bit for bit with my upgrading projects. Next; Installing the newplanned exhaust/inlet, Carter YF carburator, Pertronix electronic ignition , new plugwires and ready to drive. Next the Saginaw 4 speed project starts in august.

    How is your work going with the 235CI truck engine progressing and the transmission plans for the old bagger ?

    Martinius.:D
     
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  6. Volker

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    Hi Martinius,

    i'm working -if i have time outside my work - on my engine. I have decide to rebuild complete because if i have open the engine i can do all things simple.
    At the moment we have good weather for driving and not for the garage:D... but when the weather is changed i will go to my engine..
    and my 216 runs and runs. Why i want to change? I don't know:eek:
     
  7. vwnate1

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    235 Engine Overhaul

    Well ; don't need to bore it unless it has serious taper ~ my old '46s engine has .016" taper , I fitted new Std. pistons and it was fine...

    *DO* seek out a brandy new 261 camshaft from a 1962 C-50 truck , it'll make your 235 giddyap and GO ! :p

    New lifters too , never , EVER use re-ground cams nor lifters ! :eek:

    I know you'll be installing a pair of new cam gears , don't use a fiber one on the cam and be SURE bothgears are the same brand on the box as different manufacturers use slightly differing pitch on the teeth and you can wind up with a howling cam drive like my old '55.2 tow truck :(

    Why oh why did I just walk away from that wonderful old truck ?! :(

    $ spent on the cylinder head is well spent ! DO NOT use cast iron valve guides ! :eek: .

    Assemble the top end dry and follow my breakin instructions to the 'T' for longer engine life and more power , less oil consumption .
     
  8. Volker

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    Martinius,

    do you have a single carb on the engine?.
    I think about fenton headers but i don't know fits the standard intake with the fenton headers?.
    I want to try to start with a Carter YF - i bougth on ebay today and later i will try a fenton double intake.
    Step for step - i have to collect money for this big operation :D
     
  9. Volker

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    @ Nate

    Nate,

    i love your information but could you help me to find the parts and ship to me?
    I don't know can i trust the unknow seller. Chev's or Jim Carter are correct seller but a little bit expensive.
    Is the unknow seller not correct i can't go and beat:D The way is to long.


    a 261 camshaft sounds good but where can i find it?
     
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    :DHey Volker how are you ?

    Yes, the 1955-57 carburator i am planning to install is made fore the 235 engines, Carter YF model with aut.choke it is. The Fenton ìntake kit fits without any trouble on the 54 engine but it`s expencive though. Sometimes Ebay offers for lower price then vendors?
    I am going to wait with that kind a project for a while.

    Regards Martinius:D


     
  11. vwnate1

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    Cams & Carbys

    O.K. , Iskandarian (?SP?) cams in Gardenas , Ca. should be able to set you up with a new cam... Ed Iskendarian , " The Cam Father " is still alive and works there daily...

    1962 Chevrolet C-60 with InLine 6 cylinder 261 C.I. engine....

    Have them install a new aluminum cam gear on it for you .

    Fenton intake is good but you'll not be happy with Fenton dual exhaust headers , those are for racing , not street use and will rob low end power right where you need it most .

    I am sorry but I cannot help you with parts as I have piles of parts others supposedly wanted , I know you're O.K. Volker but business is business , it'll be cheaper to buy direct anyway .
     
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    Rebuilding the engine with a 261 cam is magnificant.Tell us how it worked out Volker and what the costs are for a complete setup from Iskandarian ?
    I agree with Nate about engine power robbing, maybe dual Offenhauser is a better alternative?

    http://www.iskycams.com/


    Martinius.
     
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    Exhaust Manifold

    A dual outlet exhaust manifoldis the way to go , splitting it makes noise butreduces power until the engine is wound up tight where you'll never have it .


    There's a gy in TEXAS who adds the dual outet like a 1954 Corvette had , no restrictor between the outlets to rob power ~ I know someone here posted his E-Mail addy , I'm outside on SWMBO's laptopand don't have it archived here plus nearly impossible to see the screen in spite of nice shade .

    Look in older posts about split exhaust for the info including how it should look when finished .

    Like most " Hot Rod ' stuff , there's lots of crap that looks good then there's the real go fast stuff , it'snot always pretty .
     
  14. Volker

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    @Martinius

    no answer from iskycams, but i will wait few days.
    ...and my biggest questions is which headers should i buy??

    Original, Clifford, Fenton, Offy or what? Could anyone give me a recommendation?


    I would like to spend my money but i don't know for what, grrrrr :-(

    Volker
     
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  15. Volker

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    @Nate

    Nate i'm not looking only for the best price and how you said business is business. If i ask about parts i buy the parts if i can trust my vendor. Also, if you have parts for my truck or could you help me with wanted parts let me know. I order and pay faster as you can think.:D

    I have a little problem in germany. I'm a German and i would make my work in perfect condition. And if i need parts i buy parts new if it's possible! In Germany we don't have junk yards with american parts and i don't have time to buy and check what's the best. That's the reason why i'm here. To learn, to get recommendations and get a tip where i can find wanted parts. Not where is the cheapest way.:D

    Volker
     
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    Iskenderian used to make a cam called E2 that would set a 235 or a 261 on fire.I had one in a 235 with a split manifold and dual carbs back in the early 60's..It fooled a lot of 265 and 283's.I don't know if they still make it or not.Ask about when you talk with them.Hope this helps.
     
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    Volker

    I understand Volker , no worries .

    I'm just no longer in business , I always post up my suppliers when I can remember them :rolleyes: so hopefully you guys can get the right stuff .

    Your english is pretty good IMO , I know plenty of people born right here who apparently don't speak it well....

    -Nate

     
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    Which Cam To Buy ?

    Well ;

    Unless you're actually racing , I don't think putting a " hot " cam into a Stovebolt is wise .

    Just tell thjem you have a 1962 Chevy Schoolbus or C-60 dumptruck with the inLine 261 C.U. engine and you'd like to buy a new stock camshaft and a set of lifters , maybe a tube of cam lube for when you assemble it .

    You'll _really_ like the difference this cam gives your old 235, moreso if you have dual carbys .
     
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  19. GrandpaGlenn0

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    Nate/Volker,
    Don't you mean a 261 C I engine?
     
  20. Volker

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    @GrandPa

    I bougth a 235 from 1954 out a car and rebuild the engine. For that Reason i'm looking for parts to make the engine better before i put in my 1946 Truck.
    And now i have a lot of options to improve the performance.
     

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