Gaskets or RTV or Both.. What Do You Use??

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  1. Lakeroadster

    Lakeroadster Member

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    I've always used gaskets and RTV. My old '27 roadster keeps spitting out water pump gaskets and some fellas are saying I should not even use a gasket, just use RTV?

    The engine is a 5.0 HO Ford..:eek: I know it's off topic, but I am a Chevy guy with a Ford motor in one of my hot rods and I am looking for some advice from ya'll. I've considered a SBC swap, but that seems drastic when the only issue is a water pump gasket.

    The gasket that keeps failing is the one that is between the sheet metal backing plate and the water pump housing. Here is a photo, you can see the pesky gasket failure at the bottom of the photo.

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  2. ccharr

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    By chance have you tried a different water pump? Reason I say that is on the 01 Roush I had they changed two different water pumps before they were able to stop the little leak it had. Just a thought.
     
  3. vwnate1

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    Gasketing

    Maybe get some Gaska-Chinch shellac and coat both sides of the paper gasket and allow to tack up a bit before installing ? .

    I use this excellent product on a regular basis on fuel pumps etc. that don't suffer much heat .
     
  4. Lakeroadster

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    Thanks for the advice fellas.

    I reassembled the Water Pump to the Engine yesterday.

    I modified a Fel-Pro 35380 Pump to Cover Plate Gasket to give a bit more width in hopes that will help prevent another gasket failure. I also made some stainless studs to plug the two tapped holes that are not used in the timing cover.

    Pump to Pump Rear Cover Plate Gaskets: P/N 35214 shown on left, P/N 35380 on the right:
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    This photo shows the P/N 35214 on top of the modified P/N 35380. Notice this results in a little wider gasket in the area that has failed twice on my '83 5.0 Motor:
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    The stainless studs I made to go into the two tapped holes:
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    The location of the unused tapped holes. I coated the studs with RTV and installed them into these holes.:
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    I used Permatex #765-3017 Water Pump Housing RTV on the gaskets and the stainless stud plugs. This grade of Permatex is stated to have Superior Water-Glycol Resistance.

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    And lastly I modified a 1/2" combination wrench to allow snugging up those two lower back cover bolts.

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    Getting the wrench into location is tricky, but it works.
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    Wish me luck fellas...
     
  5. vwnate1

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    Looking Good !

    I'm not clear as to why you couldn't tighten those rear bolts before mounting the water pump.....

    I sure hope you wire brushed the inner sealing surface shown in pic # 3 ~ .

    That cavity looks like it was full of rusty water a while before you began working on this rig .

    I assume a Customer's rig ? .
     
  6. Lakeroadster

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