12 volts conversion on the Tube

Old Chevy truck 12 volt Conversion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdItQjxQ_cI

 

OK, but left out a lot of details. I found it funny that they talked about changing the horn relay to 12 volts when these trucks didn't come with a horn relay.

 

OK, but left out a lot of details. I found it funny that they talked about changing the horn relay to 12 volts when these trucks didn't come with a horn relay. And the wiper motor (which is vacuum operated) from 6V to 12V.

 

I found it even funnier that all 1938-1954 trucks actually WERE equipped with a 6 volt horn relay


http://www.oldsobsolete.com/product...s-for-sale/1936-55-gm-horn-relay-nos-1116775/
















Here's the answer to your battery question Bill




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OK, I'm a dumba$$. The GMC trucks didn't have a horn relay. I assumed that Chevys were the same.

I wonder if the positive post has a red "top hat" on it too?

 

Oops

I can't believe Joe said that as it's wrong .

Single horns tended to be two wire with no relay .

Dual horns used relays and I think single truck horns did too after a certain point but certainly not most before 1951 .

As Joe so often likes to say " { or if you are just making things up again} " (direct quote) .

 

Hate to prove you wrong again Nate ...

But the A.D. truck Factory Assembly Manual clearly indicates that a horn relay was used on "All Trucks "

 

Check your schematic. They "all" had starter solenoids too?

 

I'm sure no expert, but, my '50 had a horn relay. However, it had been equipped with an aftermarket two trumpet horn and lots of shade-tree re-wiring. The relay did not look original, held in place with one screw and crimped with recent wires.
If you look real close at the factory assembly manual, you will notice the drawing was dated 6-29-53. These drawings were revised every year, I believe to reflect every production change no matter how minor.
I noticed this when checking cab welding dimensions, the door latches were changed and the dimensions were too.

 

Thank You Joe !

For once again proving me right .

What's the date on that NON AD wiring schematic , eh ? .

I guess you've never actually lifted he hood on any old GM truck ? in the 1930's and 1940's they ALL had two wire horns , unlike the diagram you posted there .

I don't know why you enjoy being so abrasive always , it's not becoming .

 

The document clearly indicates " except 3742 "




If you actually knew anything about the AD trucks you would know that the 3742 is this AD truck .......

http://www.stovebolt.com/gallery/truhlar_tom_1953.htm

So your claim that this is not an AD truck schematic has been proven to be wrong .... once again.


Whenever I see you make a blanket statement that is incorrect..... I try to correct you & all you do is become confrontational, dismiss it or just outright reject the correct info. or you try to berate me for having the nerve to correct you 'cause you don't get to look like the big "know it all " leader here if you are proven to be wrong

I sure wish you had the ability to actually provide documentation & pictures more often to back up most of your "off the cuff " comments 'cause people come here for info. & they don't need some ya-hoo spouting off the incorrect info off the top of his head...... We see enough of that over on the SBP.

 

Horn relais discusion

Started this thread with information but what has it become now ? Wonder why things turn out this way ?
Found this advertisement from chevs of the 40 tees wich says that all early AD trucks up to 1954 with 6 -12 volt systems can use the relais wich came in 1947 . The main thing is that its avaleble , so if you want to do just a minor Upgrade go ahead

https://www.chevsofthe40s.com/browse/1947/Car/055C.html

Thank Y"all for your contribution. Martinius.

 

While I sat through the green light as the 20 something texting in front of me in the turn lane didn't react to my pitiful sounding stock horn a few weeks ago I decided to upgrade to louder dual (hi and lo tone) horns from FLAPS. On the counter right beside the horns was a generic 12 V horn relay. I think I got out of the store for around $40.

 

When it comes to adding additional horns on a 12 volt converted A.D. truck.... I like to use the original "seashell" horns that were used on all 1955 & up GM cars. The one's from the Cadillacs & Buicks seem to have the best tones.

They are small, compact & they bolt up easily to the radiator support behind the grill.
You can find them laying around for cheap at every swapmeet .

And.... dare I say....
No reducer or relay is required

 

Horns

Really Joe ;

You failed to provide any pertinent information by posting a new diagram as it's not for the vehicle in discussion here . .

As I said before : anyone who actually has an early AD , simply looks under the hood at the wiring harness , it has a sub harness with two wires, one is live and t'other goes directly to the horn button .

I really wish you'd stop acting a childish fool always , you never offer any help to any one and only sell parts (often mis advertised like the AD headlight buckets) when you make a killing $ wise .

You're an anethma to this hobby , any hobby .

I used to send you customers because yes , you do have parts but that's all done now .

There are many @$$hat forums like the H.A.M.B. were bad manners and bragging about how wonderful you think you are , is tolerated , here we have true Enthusiasts who don't ask for any $ , they just try to help out others , 20 + year later I'm still waiting for you to help anyone with any Mechanical problem , much less for free .

Do you seriously suggest running dual horns sans relays ? that's the fastest way to ruin the contacts in the upper mast jacket and horn push there is , any real Mechanic would know this .

Martinus , I feel your pain , no worries , the rest of us are still here decades later and stand ready to help,for free no less .

 

Nate we have argued with each other since we both started up on the SBP in 1999.... as a matter of fact I even remember debating horn relays with you on the bolt years ago...... Nothing has changed.

Although we have a 15 year history of irritating each other.... I have come to accept the fact that no matter what you do or where you are..... there will always be someone around that reminds you of fingernails on a chalkboard.....learn to deal with it.

Most of the time... I just laugh when I see one of your typical medicated rambling posts advising someone to adjust his valves because his brakes don't work.... Other times I will challenge you on it.

Every site has a "know it all" character that regularly spouts off with "expert technical information" that is many times incorrect..... You are that character here.


know-it-all [noh-it-awl] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person who acts as though he or she knows everything and who dismisses the opinions, comments, or suggestions of others.

 

Never to old to learn

Joe and Nate

I am glad you guys emptied your frustrations to one and another. But i wanna say try to respect each other and keep it gentle. Disagreements are normal but its better if these can be solved through private discussions. In my opnion there are no captains neither footsoldiers excisting in this forum.
In my opinion life is to short to arque at least here in public. Most forum users give and get there related AD information fore free. Most users experience the fantastic international contacts and relations this forum gives. Think of all the happy faces and thankfull People this forum have.

Our host allows people selling and buying genuine used parts here at this forum and we should be thankfull for that.
I am shore that Joe has supplied many people with good parts and i am glad he is making his buisness and is doing it well.

Thank you guys fore having my attention. Martinius.

 

Laughing

Because only Joe thinks I'm any sort of expert , as I often say , I'm just an old Journeyman Mechanic .

Joe never admits his mistakes , I always do .

 

What's the difference between a know-it-all that says he doesn't know everything, and one that claims he knows more?

 

Anytime Nate starts a post with..... " When I was a wee lad...."
I know that nothin' but bullshit will follow.