Get Well Soon !! to Our Unoffical Leader Nate

I for one am Thankful for the help and guidance Nate has provided in this forum. Here's hoping he gets the deal moving forward on a Positive note starting Monday. Get Well soon !!! and come back and join us. God knows most of us need the help & for me I like the crazy wording, takes me awhile but I can normally figure them out. Heres one for ya Nate GET WELL SOON Good Luck

 

I'll drink to that! But then again, I'll drink to almost anything! We'll be thinking about you and look forward to your first painfree post. Good luck!

 

From blighty

Get well soon Nate, hope all goes well,
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yes, i feel the need to chime in as well. i give you my best, nate. can't wait to ask some more stupid questions and get your straitforward, very very useful answers.

jon

 

Thanx , I am back @ work and feeling better .
Too much to do so I only now (wednesday) found this topic...

Interestingly , one mechanic I know told me my advice wasn't very good as I tend to keep things simple & basic.....

 

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HAHAHAHA,
Sorry, I fell out of my chair when I read that your advice was not good, because it was too simple. As a fellow mechanic, I can appreciate your answers even more than most, and realize that a majority of issues can be solved by sticking to basics. The phrase KISS is probably the most useful thing I can teach any young guy coming in to this business. That, and RESPECT other people's hard earned tools, and knowledge. I am very glad to hear that your procedure has offered some comfort to you. I am fighting a C3 disc hernia right now, and know what kind of pain can come from doing our kind of work. It is not a kind business, especially towards the body, the mind, and the paycheck. Keep on fighting the good fight, and posting those simple (but very helpful) responses, as a lot of us do actually appreciate them........Mike

 

THANX Mike ;

I was felling like giving up on life for a while there , I've been in physical pain since childhood but this last was just too much to bear.

I hope the fix holds .

I was surprised when he told me ' too simple ' as all I own and drive is junk I saved from the crusher and it always goes along and takes me everywhere ~
my clapped out '49 shop truck has been to Death Valley and back several times , always heavily loaded.....

One old guy on this very list once tried to tell me a crankshaft ALWAYS needs to be re-gound every time you open up an engine.... I was apalled and told him so , that's why we have less good used parts these days ~ needless rebuilding when simple overhauls will do as GM intended .

 

Hey Nate,

Real happy you have gotten some relief out of the spinal injections. You are one of the lucky ones. Hopefully it will hold a good long time as repeated injections surely will turn the bones to mush as you already know. As far as disc hernia's in the neck are concerned, it used to be the most problematic type of patient I saw until about 15 years ago when I stumbled upon a nearly discarded technique in chiropractic by reading an old and out of print text. I found an old timer who did nothing but this very procedure for his entire 50 year career and apprenticed to him for a year. I have been doing this technique exclusively on cervical disc patients ever since and have saved countless people from debilitating pain and the surgeon's knife. Many testimonials from patients too sick to even breathe who got better at the hands of this chiropractor after being to the "best doctor's in the world" to no avail can attest to the benefits of this procedure. Problem with the technique is that too few of us do it and unless it is done right, the results don't come. If done right, however, the "pain in the neck" is a permanent thing of the past.

See...I found an old mechanic (chiropractor's are really just mechanics working with a body made of flesh instead of steel) who kept it simple doing one thing really well and learned from him (sound familiar?). Now I teach this technique all over the country. If you ever need fixing on this problem again or if Mikester out there wants to find relief that lasts, just let me know and I'll see if there is someone near you guys that does the technique. It sure beats months of P.T. that doesn't work or the risk of the surgeon's knife.

Andy

 

Great to hear you are feeling better Nate. Like the simple answer line. People forget in working on the cars simple is the best one 99.9% of the time in getting to the fix. I just am getting back from 2 full days at the Philadelphia Car Show. I spoke to 200+ high school seniors entering the field at one of the local technical schools about the automotive field and their future. Told learn,think,do,care about each & ever repair they perform. Knowledge is power in out business. Get well soon Nate.

 

Andy, I would love to learn more about the practice you mentioned. I am currently going through a recurrence of an injury from over a year ago. Luckily, my doctor is not huge on rushing to surgery, and just happened to injure his C2 disc skiing, about 2 weeks after my first episode. So he is getting very educated on the matter. I live in the Roseville, Ca. area, (near Sacramento). You can PM me if you would rather. I am open to all potential fixes, as I do not like being limited in what I can do. I am only 38, and do not look forward to dealing with this pain forever. The doctor is currently talking about having a cortisone shot applied at the site. From what I understand, this is kind of a patch, and limited on how many times it can be done. Thanks for any help.......Mike

 

Yeah ;

Lemme know what this miracle PT is please ! .

I allready learned stretching my hamstrings to bring my pelvis back into correct alignment , this eradicated 90 % of the lower back pain I've suffered 40 years with.....

 

Okay Mike and Nate,

The technique is Upper Cervical Specific work and is extremely successful for cervical disc problems. It is the creme de la creme of chiropractic work and works when other chiropractic methods fail. I reserve it for my toughest of the tough and the worst of the worst patients. The great thing about the technique is that it gets to the root cause and corrects it. Practiced by a few dedicated, obsessive compulsive, anal retentive, detail oriented people that do not compromise their methods. There is a very strict protocol that must be followed in order to obtain the desired results. As the name of the technique implies, it is very specific in it's analysis and correction. The basis of the work is that a derangement of a disc (bulge or herniation) will cause faulty mechanics of the remainder of the cervical spine causing a loss of the normal backwards curve. The cervical spine will then curve forward. Now, the brain doesn't want you looking at your shoes all day long, so the upper part of the cervical spine (specifically the first and second vertebrae) will tilt back to compensate and get your eyes off the ground. This tilting back at the very top causes even more irritation to the neurological structures. So now you have irritated neurological tissue where the disc is blown out multiplied exponentially by the irritation caused by the misalignment at the top which is compensating for the loss of curve. It is the combination of irritation both high and low in the cervical spine that causes the symptom complex (severe, unrelenting pain often with referred symptoms in the shoulders, arms and hands). The wonderful thing about this is that due to the unique anatomy of the very top of your spine, there are no discs between the skull and the second vertebrae. The discs begin between the second and third vertebrae. Most chiropractors will work on the area of the damaged discs. Now, I ask you how is that smart? Why work on an area that has compromised anatomical structures? If you do that, you are running a risk of further irritating an area that is already mechanically compromised. Remember, your disc is torn. It is a complex ligament. The tear in the disc allows the inner viscous gel of the disc to herniate through the tear. Wouldn't it make more sense to NOT work directly on the torn disc and allow it to heal? Of course it would. This is where the Upper Cervical Specific work comes in to play. The very top of the spine is analyzed very carefully using computerized thermographic instrumentation which indicates a pattern of irritation through succesive scans. A misalignment of the top vertebrae will yield a characteristic irritated graph which will present itself upon repeated scans with the instrumentation. That is how we know the upper cervical spine has been affected by a lower disc problem. Once the abnormal graph presents itself again and again, a very precise series of X-Rays are taken of the Upper Cervical region which will EXACTLY show the position of the vertebrae when the irritated graph presents itself. So, now we know WHERE the bones are when the abnormal graph reading is present. Precise measurements are taken of the films to give a position of the vertebrae in three distinct planes of motion (think X, Y and Z axis). Once the malposition is delineated, a precise three dimensional manipulation (called an adjustment) is given to correct this misalignment of the top vertebrae only. This effectively removes the irritation at the top of the spine caused by the disc problem lower down. Removing this neurological irritation at the upper cervical vertebrae then relieves so much of the pressure that the irritation caused by the disc lower down goes sub-threshold and the symptoms go away. This also removes so much mechanical stress to the region that the curve of the neck begins to normalize, taking mechanical stress off the disc and allowing the protruding disc material to resorb into the disc, removing the cause of irritation lower down. All of this is accomplished without ever going near the offending disc. Remember, that discs usually tear and herniate because of arthritic degeneration in the lower spine. The upper cervical region is rarely affected by degenerative arthritic changes and certainly not to the degree that lower cervical vertebrae are. This makes the technique extremely safe and effective because it does not focus on a degenerative arthritic area and does not risk further irritating an already compromised disc because it does not affect it directly. It is like working on it by remote control.

Rather long-winded but I hope in conveys how precise and accurate the work is as well as the rationale behind it. Like I said before, the problem is finding someone obsessed enough with detail and doing it right.

I myself have been adjusted in this manner for over 15 years. Prior to that, I received the regular chiropractic adjustments that many of you may have experienced and can honestly say that my health improved dramatically as a result. The only thing that NEVER went away were my crippling migraine headaches that would last for up to three days at a time. They were so bad that I had to stay in a dark room with no sound or light until they passed. Needless to say when you get these things several times per month it kind of puts a damper on your life. Since I began these upper cervical adjustments, I haven't had a single migraine in the last 15 years.

Mikester, I know where you are now so I will try to locate someone for you. Luckily, there is a school in California that teaches the work and I myself have taught it twice per year in San Francisco. I will contact my peolple out there and try to find someone local to you that does the work. I will PM you within a week, hopefully sooner.

Nate, if you're interested I would be happy to do the same for you.

Oh yeah, another bonus...you know how many people go to the chiro three times a week for it seems like forever? With this technique, the adjustment actually holds and stays put! After a very brief period of time, the adjustments will hold for VERY long periods of time. I have many patients who come by to get a computerized scan and receive no adjustment for months at a time. I even have some patients who get scanned once a month and only need to be adjusted once or twice a year. Now that's healing and that's correction.

Andy

 

Andy, thanks for taking the time to detail the procedure. Sounds very cool. I'll look forward to hearing back from you, as it sounds like it's worth checking in to further.....Mike

 

Sounds Good But ;

Can I afford it ? sounds very intricate .

I'm in Pasadena and will travel if you can find someone who can do this .

I've had -very- good luck with Chiropractors , I rarely need more than one visit per year or so .

PLEASE keep me posted ! I eagerly await further news on where to go .

 

I Forgot To Add :

I was back at i last night , took my Mercedes all into tiny pieces , didn't feel too much pain , a bit when I reach up over my head and trying to get the coveralls over my left shoulder is still painful .

The pain came back as I was trying to sleep last night , sufficiently bad to wake me up...

I worked hard all day to-day and got the car buttoned up , it works fine again like a good Krout car should

 

That's the thing about working mussle that hasn't been worked in a while- I'll keep my fingers crossed that you didn't over-do it and what you went through allows you to do everything you need/want to do.

 

O.K. , it's saturday morning , yesterday I followed SWMBO's instruction to
' BE STILL ! ' and took the day off and rode in my son's car all day whilst he ran errands , chased parts & so on .

It was a 17 hopur day so by the time I got back to SWMBO's place I simply crashed out and got a solid 7 hourse of sleep , woke up shortly then 2 more hours so here's hoping I'm on the road to wellness .

I am still hoping Andy come through with someone out here who can do the <magic> Chiropractic thing as I hold strong belief in Chiropractic medicine .

 

Keep going Nate better days are coming. I had shoulder & back problems all last year. It has gotten a lot better still not perfect but manageable. Hell getting old but that's what we get for working on cars for a living. They can eat you up in the long term.

 

That's the story of my life : better days ahead and untill this thing , it always was .

One stop after the other has always been my motto but this one thing really laid me low , kinda caught me by surprise in that .

' Be like a fried egg : keep your sunny side up ! '

 

Hey Nate and Mikester,

I got my people in California working on it. As soon as I hear from them and interview them over the phone, I will get you a referral if possible. Sit tight.

Andy