Building a clone of grandpa's service truck

Discussion in '1947-1954' started by SinclairChevy, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. SinclairChevy

    SinclairChevy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    Keokuk, Iowa
    Martinus,

    I totally agree with you and would love to have the hand painted signs on top of the clear coat. My only hesitation with doing it that way is:

    1. If it's damaged, how easy is it to fix?
    2. If the damage occurs years down the road, will the original artist be around to fix it?

    That's why, for now, I'm thinking I'll go with the grapics under a few layers of clear coat. But I can always change my mind! :D

    Damon
     
  2. vwnate1

    vwnate1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2000
    Messages:
    11,643
    Location:
    AMERICA !
    Then ;

    Have the sign painter do the graphics by hand then clear coat it....

    In reality , a true Shop Truck will always have scratches & dings , no need to re - do the graphics as they add character and look more original this way .

    Your dime , do it how you please :) .
     
  3. Blueflame236

    Blueflame236 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,555
    Location:
    Norway
    Maybe this inspires you ?

    Hey Damon

    If there is a graphicshop in your town that does the hand lettering or airbrushing work you could ask them your questions about performance and durabillety?
    By the way there are a lot of demonstration videos on YOUTUBE showing the different technics ! I am looking foreward to see the final result you come up with.

    Maybe this inspires you to go for the old school way :)


    http://www.pbase.com/czechman/door_art

     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2011
  4. SinclairChevy

    SinclairChevy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    Keokuk, Iowa
    Nate and Martinus,

    I think it would be very cool to be able to see the brush strokes left by the artist. Do you think clearing over the top of the brushed letters would take away from seeing that affect?

    I stumbled upon that link a couple months ago... what a treasure trove of door art!! It certainly does serve as inspiration.

    I'm going to do as much of the work on this truck as I can. That said, I'm toying around with the idea of hand painting the letters on myself, or as I mentioned earlier, having a graphics shop make the stencils for me and airbrushing it myself. I took a gold leafing class after I got into the antique fire truck hobby... that's an art, too! I think I could learn both (and have plenty of time to practice before I'm ready for the Sinclair graphics on the truck), so maybe I'll be able to contribute the graphics on my own eventually.

    Thanks again for all of the comments!

    Damon
     
  5. Blueflame236

    Blueflame236 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,555
    Location:
    Norway
    Link

    I`ll agree with you here. Doing the work yourself and getting good results is very inspiring. I would love to see some of the firetruck work you have been doing before aswell. There are very many well kept vintage
    firetrucks in the US. Like these from nearby Salem Oregon at 4.th of july parade.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpySEwRPc40&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aorkCP3QXFc&feature=endscreen&NR=1



     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Dec 30, 2011
  6. vwnate1

    vwnate1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2000
    Messages:
    11,643
    Location:
    AMERICA !
    Fire Trucks

    Back on The Farm in New Hampshire , (about 1967) , we had an old 1929 Pumper / Hose Rig , it was of course , a CHEVROLET and we kept it in the barn & ran it out in spring & end of summer down to the lake and ran the pumps to make sure it was in good working order .

    It wasn't restored , not even re painted , just another old Farm Truck in VGC.

    I wonder what ever happened to it ? :confused: .
     
  7. ol' chebby

    ol' chebby Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,164
    Location:
    Charlotte,NC
    Check out www.pinheadlounge.com to find a pinstriper/signpainter in your area. Call them about doing the art.
     
  8. SinclairChevy

    SinclairChevy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    Keokuk, Iowa
    I really don't like putting the fire truck on the back burner, but didn't have much of a choice. I learned very quickly that parts for a 1950 Chevy truck are readily available, as opposed to parts for a 1948 American LaFrance fire truck. Great photos, stories, and videos of the fire trucks. I try to attend a couple antique fire truck events every summer. They're always a blast.

    I'm still on the hunt for (4) four leaf spring mounts... the parts that rivet to the frame. I will replace the shackles, bolts, bushings, etc. with new parts from our host. The last deal didn't work out. No biggie, just hoping to find what I need. If not, I'm sure I could make the parts... I'd just prefer to use stock when I can.

    Thanks again!

    Damon
     
  9. Blueflame236

    Blueflame236 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,555
    Location:
    Norway
    I'm still on the hunt for (4) four leaf spring mounts.the parts that rivet to the fra

    Send you a message !

     
  10. SinclairChevy

    SinclairChevy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    Keokuk, Iowa
    Thank you very much!!!!!! :D

    Damon
     
  11. Wolf

    Wolf Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2008
    Messages:
    888
    Location:
    Kansas
    fantastic truck. That will be great! I love the old resto's like that
     
  12. Guest5979

    Guest5979 Guest

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2007
    Messages:
    821
    rear end

    I used a 69 72 k5 blazer rear end and put the stock backing plates on. the gears are 3.73 the drive shaft came out of a 90s impala cop car.
    hope this helps.
    Robert
     
  13. SinclairChevy

    SinclairChevy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    Keokuk, Iowa
    Great tip, thanks! What were you running for a power plant and transmission?

    Damon
     
  14. SinclairChevy

    SinclairChevy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    Keokuk, Iowa
    I don't wanna get too far off the subject of the Sinclair Chevy project, but I wanted to show you the other project I'm working on (albeit slowly). This is a photo of the 1948 American LaFrance aerial ladder truck I own. The photo was taken about six months before I purchased it.

    [​IMG]

    Check out the first post of this thread to see what the truck looked like when i bought it from the scrap yard:

    http://www.alfowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142

    You can also read the story of the fire truck there as well.

    Thanks to eBay, I should have the four rear spring mounts for the '50 Chevy this week. Looking forward to getting back to work on it.

    Damon
     
  15. vwnate1

    vwnate1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2000
    Messages:
    11,643
    Location:
    AMERICA !
    Fire Truck !

    THANX ! I read all 8 pages..... :rolleyes: .
     
  16. Guest5979

    Guest5979 Guest

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2007
    Messages:
    821
    powerplant

    a 235 with a 60s saginaw 3 on the tree transmission
     
  17. SinclairChevy

    SinclairChevy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    Keokuk, Iowa
    You're welcome, vwnate. Glad you enjoyed the read.

    I scored a steering column for my 1950 Chevy today, pretty excited about that. Got a scheme in mind for a custom combo for the tiller, should be cool if I can pull it off.

    Looking for a bit of advice. I'm not sure if I'll go with a mechanical or hydraulic clutch. Those with experience... what do you prefer and why? I'm planning on using the brake and clutch pedal assembly from a '71-'72 Chevy truck. I've already scored the assembly, just need to figure out how I'm going to mount it and hook everything up. Plenty of time for that though, not ready to work on the cab just yet. Just gathering information at this point.

    Thanks again, folks!

    Damon
     
  18. sidewynder

    sidewynder Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2002
    Messages:
    65
    Location:
    suburban Troy, MO
    Call me old fasioned

    As a user- I prefer the feel of a mechanical clutch. Most hydraulics feel squishy and brake-like to me. Personal preference, I know, but a clutch should feel like a clutch not like a brake :rolleyes:.

    The shadetree mechanic in me also prefers mechanical - more moving parts, but once you get it, there is fewer things to go wrong.

    The shadetree "engineer" likes the hydraulic, especially if you are doing serious modifications - just put the master cylinder at the pedal end, and the slave cylinder at the transmission and connect them with hydraulic line.

    I have worked with two different types of hydraulic slave cylinders - One fits around the transmission input shaft, and the other connects to the bell housing and uses a relay rod (more like the mechanical one would.

    If I had to go hydraulic, I would go with the externally mounted slave cylinder. Not only is it easier to replace the slave cylinder in the event of an issue, it also has a more "clutch like" feel.

    Just my $.02 - Bob
     
  19. SinclairChevy

    SinclairChevy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    Keokuk, Iowa
    Thanks for the incite, Bob... well worth your two cents!

    I scored some manual clutch linkage from a circa '70 Chevy half tonner today. I probably won't be able to use the exact parts I scavenged, but it could possibly be used as a guide for building my own linkage. The bell housings are different, as well as (I'm sure) the dimensions from truck to truck.

    Thanks again, folks!

    Damon
     
  20. vwnate1

    vwnate1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2000
    Messages:
    11,643
    Location:
    AMERICA !
    ! Boing !

    A '70 C/10 you say ? .

    How's the seat belts ? what color ? . dirty is O.K. if not threadbare along the edges....

    If it's an L6 , I need some engine parts too , hubcaps , other little things .

    TIA ,
     

Share This Page